A Few Bad Nurses

All one has to do is check the AZBN website for the disciplinary action review and get quite the eyefull of alleged violations committed by nurses that have been disciplined. Some of the most egregious cases make it seem that many nurses are so out of control. Speaking to many of these nurses, at random, which takes a certain amount of persistent research as direct contact information is seldom available can bring the flip side into view. Many of the nurses have exercised their own values as well as the value of their mentors to end up on this disciplinary page and whose own story often is a long stretch from that viewed on this website. Information that is tainted beyond the reality of what actually has occurred is common. Why would a nurse who completed probationary stipulations in another state, be forced to repeat the same monitoring regulations in Arizona? Once declined and fuck off Arizona and go to another state, why would that discipline action remain on the Az. web page for better than ten yrs.?? The case was over in the previous state of Washington, and closed, so when a potential employer searches the web they find the Arizona review which carried the ‘out of state’ evidence in their deposition which the nurse refused to accept; case should be deleted. One of many cases that expose over regulation and under management.  Where are the bad nurses?? The truth is well known but can not be handled.

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38 thoughts on “A Few Bad Nurses

  1. Actually the truth about this Bd is well known, and considering the value of good health care it is evident that their regulating the system completely the wrong way. Few people today are without major concern for their own safety when submitting to treatment. I doubt the azbn can take the full brunt of the poor health care in today’s’ market place, however, its integrity related to nurse disciplines is well established in mockery.

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  2. When a Nurse says she hears of cases of nurses being railroaded by this az bon , she said “i just look on line and see they deserved it” WOW !! You mean that you actually believe 1/2 of what is written and do not question the 1) investigation 2) what was the complaint about in the first place (ANYTHING to get it opened ) and witch hunt the records 3) the fact that ANY nurse would be revoked if investigated by this board . IF the nurses who have NO CLUE how this Corrupt board of nursing operates , they need to learn and make plans to EXIT the state if they value their license !

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  3. All this board does is retaliate against nurses for hospitals.
    Either the nurse spoke up , talked back , and wasn’t obedient , or was fired illegally and may have a case on the hospital, or cost them money some how.
    Public safety ??
    If you are before this board you will see Randy Drag QUinn, shooting from the hip on every case ! SO NOT QUALIFIED to be messing with peoples lives ! He might THINK , he is in control and runs the show with the women bowing down and voting to obey, a real pompous *ss.

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  4. This corrupt nursing board needs a good defamation suit to make them straighten up and fly right. Yea , the white shirt wearing , tie toting , moron looking goon, thinks he is 10 ft tall and bullet proof, a real messed up mind on that dude. ! Randy Drag Quinn – good one , like I said it’s all woman on the board!

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  5. the really ‘bad” nurses are on the board of nursing . they know exactly the illegal things they are doing. Discussing cases is VERY obvious. obtaining records they have no reason to obtain or legally . Spending HOURS and hours on certain cases while hardly looking at anything else in cases they have no choice but to hear. Just a focus on the complaint which usually gets dismissed . A back door meeting before they put on their very clumsy meetings. Very sad what they do to shame only CERTAIN ones, very unfair this corrupt board. Sad that they follow money trail , to come up with crazy ideas about each nurse.

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  6. some of the cases are down right jokes, while the ‘investigator ” is trying to make the nurse out to be a complete failure., it appears the ‘investigator ” aka snoop dog , is the failure . Any nurse that knows their stuff will say hey wait a minute there uh Michael Pilder . Who thinks that a diastolic b/p of 97 is extremely high. what was normal for this person was it recheck manually was it rechecked and trending down. After walking into a medical facility and being upset with white coat syndrome. Everyone who has WORKED BEDSIDE and not Monday morning quarter back look at a record knows you get out of norm, once in awhile. what were other symtoms ??. Then Pilner who appears to be a bookworm and no common sense., says that the nurse “failed to notify family’ geez maybe that is because too busy running for the patients ? LOW PRIORITY . (oh that’s what the BON does , call family members for dirt !) As if that isnt the most pathetic reason to drag a nurse through the mud Pilner goes on to say a patient has a really LOW b/p 102/60 , really ? compared to WHAT , what was the b/p trending ? and they to say ‘because he was on coumadin he was concerned about ‘internal bleeding ” but mentions NO heart rate ?? No other signs ! While Pilner can ‘wow ” any idiot judge , he makes a fool of himself. And when an INR is elevated , the nurse tells the patient to stop coumadin (im sure until they recheck it or see the Dr) but instead the BON jumps his butt for this saying it wasn’t up to him. ! BUT if this patient were to bleed out you bet this BON would blame it on this nurse for not telling the patient to hold their coumadin until recheck or see the Dr. AND then you really know this dude been hanging with the gang too long when he says the nurses reaction was BLASE’ . That ‘s a new one ! , BLASE’ !! really. Actually he was probably looking at this left over hippy as ‘are you for real dude ?” Absolutely the biggest waste of time , ever ! Taxpayers are paying this guys salary ? WOW. While medical errors are killing patients. Pilner should lose his license , and never be allowed to tell anyone he is a nurse . Scary. Take your MSN and hang it on the wall it is just BLASE’ . educated idiots. And this is your BON folks getting paid to scour records . What did this accomplish ? And where is the RN who is over this LPN , ‘who lost his mgt skills. ” since when do LPNS have ANY mgt skills ? CRAZY !!

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  7. If not for the nurses and cna who get dui’s and test positive for drugs , this board would not have an existence . Why is a BON handling these cases ? That’s what courts are for . Unless drunk at work. And not the boards bullsh*t of ‘eyes pink, talked to fast , slumped in chair, looked blase’ , patient complained, they smelled of alcohol. When you search the members of the BON and employees , and former employees a large number have bankrupts on their record . So what is up with that ? Just as IRRESPONSIBLE , what do they have this ? What are they spending their money on? Why can’t they manage their funds ? Do they have a gambling problem? what are they spending it on? porn addiction? Buying opiods on the black market to avoid detection ? Do they have some other reason they are not responsible ? Something is not right with these people . If you cannot manage your personal lives how can you dictate to others ? UNPROFESSIONALS parading around as the epitome of how everyone else should be .

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  8. Anyone who has searched a case and looked at what is really going on , knows not to read what the board puts on the web sight , and to “‘read between the lines” . The author has a ‘style” of hateful, irrelevant , biased, insensitive, unnecessary commenting, that they know are lies , and don’t care. If someone says it then , this author thinks they can put it in print and who would think that anyone could put something untrue in print ?
    This author, is a very evil wicked person, someone you would not want around your children or even have to tell your children these type exist. On the nasty side, they have some real thoughts of sick behavior . No one can trust them .

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  9. People who want to have leverage over other peoples lives are considered to have ‘sickness of the mind” Whether mental, emotional, or physical control over other peoples lives , have a classic sign they have “sickness of the mind .” Aberrant in nature . I think a few of the smart ones who have left this azbon , may have recognized what was going on and decided to exit or they verbalized it and were helped out. While some are just plain incompetent , and took slandering to a whole new level .

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  10. LOOK AT WHAT THIS USELESS TURD, STEVE GONOS, WROTE. HE DOESN’T HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE TO SUCCEED AS AN FNP.

    Pursued a lifelong dream and also own 2A Tactical LLC, a Class 07/SOT 2 business catering to providing training, gun sales, manufacture of customized rifles and NFA items. Military, police, fire,corrections, emergency medical service, and medical personnel friendly.

    Finished BSN and have been working in acute care as an emergency room nurse, relief charge nurse and preceptor. Currently working on MSN-FNP and look forward the the future.

    Attained licensure as a practical nurse in June 2014.

    Have been in the medical field since 2010 and full time in 2011 after approximately 14 years as a police officer. During my law enforcement time, I served in many capacities from patrolman, field training officer and police supervisor. Areas worked in law enforcement covered, patrol operations, traffic investigation, impaired driver investigation, fatal collision investigation and strategic reaction team (SWAT).

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  11. I agree they are worse than mgrs who go against nurses . Mgrs who will not staff properly so they can keep their job . None of them could or would do what the nurses before them do . SAD , all of them pathetic !

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  12. Gonos , is a ‘preceptor ” they found someone dumber than him? What is he pre-cepting on guns? Or how to screw other nurses ? A “lifelong dream to have a store for gun sales??” sounds like a night mare waiting to happen. who stops one career when so close to getting a pension in that career ? he forgot to put on his resume about his getting sh*t canned at the last job . as a cop and then as a nurse. Maybe someone should contact his school, that is one I learned from the BON, be sure and fling as much dirt as you can in every direction. How can they frown on this, when this is their style. Gonos fit right in with the pussies at the board David Elson . . Another one loves to see women taken down . And willing to jump on the bandwagon of volunteers , hateful bastard too.

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    1. So true Norm. He states he looks “forward to the future”. He will be 50 when he graduates. How many 50 year olds state they look forward to their future?

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      1. Actually how many of us look forward to turning 50. And as a fairly new nurse at that age (as a man) looks kind of weird.

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  13. I think ALL we really think about when we turn 50 and the years beyond is just “staying alive”. Let’s play that staying alive song from the movie starring John Travolta. LOL.

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  14. People can put in complaints , but it is the stupid members of this board (AZBON) who do not have a clue , and are very gullible . none of them should ever be in the position they are in , no common sense , they drill the person in front of them as if they are the liar when the biggest liars are the ones who made up a big story . Seems like these members were raised in a closet and no exposure to a balanced life , which makes them judgemental , and do many nurses wrong. No insight , reading what a drama queen investigator writes that soups up the lies to be so rediculous , they even change them , because no one would believe them , unless your on the AZBON , gullible 1/2 wits

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  15. Then they lie about reading the transcipts , they get a ‘report” from a sick mind, who is guiding them how to make a motion and vote and what they are looking for . they have even staged ‘fake go around votes ” to make it look like they were ‘trying to save the license ” . BAD actors , and BAD people . Certainly not worthy of being on a state board. The ‘meeting before the meeting ” . SIck minds can be a number of people but you can bet Mamaluy , Dahn, Smith , Campbell and Ridenour head that gang up .
    ALL of it highly illegal , those coffee cups heading in different rooms .

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  16. Whoever wrote that pile of FICTION ‘meeting over view ”
    Notice is says “approximately 3 weeks ” before the board meeting is held the board members begin receiving the investigative reports . Such lies , my my . not even THREE DAYS .
    As well as meeting begin at 0800am , that is if the BOARD doesn’t screw up again , and not follow the laws ! I swear these people would someone if ever allowed to work beside . scary groupies . liars .

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  17. AZ BOARD OF NURSING MEETING : Hello everybody I am here to tell you all to go home. there is no real board and there is no real board members . You are all just regular people who have tricked into committing crimes against humanity. I would run if I were you.

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  18. Now that would be the ONLY truth said at a BON meeting ! Of course these regular people have been duped all of their lives. Brainwashing is a powerful thing. Admitting all done in error is the first step. But the non admitting is carried over into their professional lives , “you are the elite they are the bad guys , you are always right never admit wrongdoing no matter what ” They are sinners not you , you are worthy. To outsiders a very sick brainwashing game for money.

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  19. “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a weak case and a good example ” (with a big mouth)

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  20. In this country we punish people for what they have done not what they MIGHT do . Otherwise we should take all of the boards licenses away, everyone is a potential , wake up randy Drag Quinn. You have cost the state a ton of money through your inexperience .

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  21. A perfect example of the Peter Principle , with the AZ BON , that those on the board have been elevated to the highest level of their inefficiency . The incompetence within this bureaucracy is too evident .

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  22. The Bad nurses and BAD lawyers are with the Board of Nursing. AZBON HARASSES AND DEFAMES NURSE WHO HOLD BON ACCOUNTABLE FOR VIOLATING OUR LAWS AND CIVIL RIGHTS ” AZ BON DETESTS EXPOSURE OF THEIR CORRUPTION AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITY ” Using every method they can think of , using guards to intimidate . Thinking they can run a public state agency and not follow the laws . Numerous violations . Special thanks to Honorable and honest , integrity of the AZ DPS who could see right through the intentional known false accusations and misrepresented the facts and law to an investigative detective . The bon acting like the gang in Yuma, starting rumors and drama getting others involved, intimidation , and retaliation a big game with a few willing game players . David ELSON, Kirk Olson, Glenn Cook, Robert Ellis (thug gang ) Naira Kutnerian , Bonnie Richter to name a few. gone out of their way collectively mobbing ,and bullying . Encouraging others to join in . Hall of Shame .

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  23. They “appear” to be ‘normal ” but when you are a target I believe they would go so far as to kill someone. Certainly trying to put someone in a bad light. Vicious , while trying to make out that everyone else is dangerous . The ones above , running their mouths but what could they say right in front of you ? All pap, all ‘sky is falling ” , but they choose to get involved . Be careful of those back room rumors . Dale got out, he heard enough, joined in , ‘pretending to be making a call ” got called on it. Like Naira does sneeking around the back of the building . Why would people go outside to make calls ? Why would the ‘dirty looks” ? ask yourself . very gullible , sad , puppets , Are you treating others as you want to be treated ? Someday they will wonder why? why did I join in? What did happen , what was true , ? was I persuaded by gossip , and each one put a spin on it ? Or is this how they are taught ? Brainwashed into believing. . How do they get rewarded for their ‘extra curricular activities while they are suppose to have their nose to the grind stone working in their job description. What makes one volunteer , promotions? titles ? who is dumb enough to bail out Mamaluy ? who ? is it YOU? who is dumb enough to bail out Ridenour , ? who you? They made their beds , and your gonna help they out of the hole they dug ? That is your choice . Choose wisely.

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  24. yes watcher heard about the gang in Yuma , didn’t matter that the nurses were all on probation or caught stealing drugs or threatening someones life . (and the non nurses and lying ). This crazy bon can ignore that ., unless it is their ‘target” , and hey advocate, look at Naira Kutnerian , looks like she got promotion so there’s your answer why she is doing it . Her title of ‘investigator” with the translation she must have thought she was a ‘spy ‘ now . amazing what some people will do for money . They get rewarded by “joey” aka Jokey somehow.

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  25. Wonder if Elson thinks he is climbing the ladder, idiot not even a nurse. Sure likes to testify against woman and take them down . Seems like it is just in his nature. He has a lot to answer for . They all do , especially that randy quinn, dopey looking one. Looks like he should have a twin and ride a bike , and have the door slammed in his face. But what he is doing here is easier , he “thinks’ he is in command , actually presents well . UNTIL HE OPENS HIS MOUTH !

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  26. hey Bette was there last winter , wow what is this world coming too. between Dana , and Ashley Harrell getting married, tattoo every inch of their large bodies , if that isn’t enough . hanging out in the pool two women making out , like really you need to display that , bumping p., what ever . Such low life , wouldn’t want any of them for a nurse ! UH! From Tenn, both got fired in Fla so come to AZ . dang , real display of affection hippos bopping in the hot tub. even heterosexuals don’t put on the show like these two. Imagine either one of them doing a private parts exam or —— got sign off , getting sick thinking about it.

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  27. They will fit right in that hell hole Maybe they can get on the Arizona Board of Nursing, another area they’ll make a ‘good fit” then judge others on what is professional !! like calling the kettle black .

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  28. forgive anonymous but who wants this nasty crew going against them if they have a license in AZ .
    First I want to say I do know nurses who have been victims of this board and for the life of me cannot figure out what they did that warranted revoke, so I will say no they did not warrant revoke at all in fact should have been dismissed.
    second , since this happened to someone I know and it bothers me the ones who are down right dangerous , I ‘turned in a few over the years before and after i found out how the board operates. and in each case NOTHING was done . NOTHING !
    you be the judge case # 1 ) Friend of mine in tears every night because a new Rn hired at her hospital . I listened , then she mentioned his name , I did not recognize it, but then she said he used to work in Casa Grande . WHOA . It clicked . When i was there he was escorted out by security for ‘getting fresh with a young female patient ” I guess the hosp never turned him in. They should have he was fired, and inappropriate. Then I remembered a patient I had. Young man playing basketball he came in very embarrassed his shoulder was dislocated. It was hanging down , lot of pain. When this RN “joseph” came over , thought he was going to play “Dr” and put it back in . I stopped him . Got the Dr. THEN when it was put back in, this big dude actually told this 17 year old he needed to go home and lift weights, that part of his problem was he was weak ! This was MY patient , and I was furious about him saying such stupid stuff . Not reported, just told the kid do NOT lift weights , it can come back out easy since it came out once. Many stupid comments by ‘big dummy” . So my friend is having a hard time at her job , and I wrote the two incidents up sent them to this board of nursing , and there is NOTHING on his license and he was never investigated or answered to anyone . That is one case . This board is worthless. I hope this hard *ss is nurse for their son or grandson , see if they think this is APPROPRIATE in any manner , and their daughter have him as their nurse, and make sexual remarks , and touching. SO my encounter was as a complaintent if I did not have license I would have went in and wanted to know , who is running this “public safety” mess !!

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    1. Many are very well aware of the short comings of the Phoenix group, and tune ups by new bill this year will greatly reduce the time limit on cases as well as reduce Bds busy work, I think it’s not conclusive to include the AAG as a source of dubious actions and confirming, at least to yourself, it is illegal. Your story isn’t unusual as it defines bad nurses walking amongst us which in spite of these obviously dangerous behaviors they still walk amongst.

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